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What are YOUR guys' morning routines?

darkkcop1234
Why 'your' instead of 'you'? It sounds so unnatural, for ex, 'It was your guys' idea'. Do people actually say 'your guys'? or do they just drop 'guys' and stick with 'your' to avoid sounding weird?

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Decent_Cow•
Standard English doesn't have a distinction between the singular and plural second-person possessive pronouns. They're both "your". "Your guys" is an attempt to create a plural possessive form by analogy with "you guys", which some people use as the second-person plural personal pronoun.
JaneGoodallVS•
It sounds natural but now that you say it, it is weird. Compare it to: * You all's morning routine. * Those guys' morning routine. Also, if you emphasize your, it could be that you're speaking to a single person and referring to that person's set of guys, not your own set of guys, and want to emphasize that. Maybe a manager's subordinates do something stupid, and you say "it was _your_ guys' idea" to the manager to emphasize that it wasn't your own subordinates' idea.
QuercusSambucus•
Because if you took out the 'guys', it would be the correct form of 'you'.
Rythorian•
I would personally never use your guys', as you said I'd just drop the 'guys' bit as I agree it sounds a bit clunky (only to me though, plenty of people use it)
CarmineDoctus•
The possessive of “you guys” is a big mess and one of my least favorite aspects of English. “Your guys’” and the even worse “your guys’s” are aesthetically hideous to me but I get where they come from. Here’s what wiktionary has to say: >Generally the standard your is used as the possessive. However, possessive forms like you guys’ and you guys’s are also used; your guys’s (with a change of you to your) is nonstandard, limited to colloquial or dialectal speech.
SagebrushandSeafoam•
"Your guys'" is not considered proper grammar, but it is in common use because modern English notoriously lacks a properly distinct second-person plural pronoun set, and so dialectally and colloquially we've invented a lot of weird and unconventional workarounds, "your guys'" and "your guys's" among them. Other workarounds: Y'all's/yalls, you guys', you guys's, you's/youse. Historically, *thee* (*thou*, *thy*, *thine*) was just the normal second-person singular pronoun, and *you* (*ye*, *your*, *yours*) was strictly the second-person *plural*. But sadly we abandoned that through a series of hoops jumped in the late middle ages and early modern era, and now we are left in the rubble.
Abkhaziaisnotmyhome•
"you guys'" sounds much more natural than "your guys'". I'd always use the former.
zebostoneleigh•
“Your guys’” and “your guys’s” are both things I’ve heard and said… naturally. They both sound totally normal. “You guys’” and “you guys’s” both sound wrong. All that said, the grammar seems wrong on paper. And I don’t have a clear explaination. But I can tell you that “your” sounds better than “you” if you are using “guys” as a possessive deceiving some item(s).
songstar13•
It is taking the idiomatic expression "you guys" and adding a possessive. Probably meant to distinguish "your routine" (which is ambiguous as to how many 'yous' are included) from "the routine of you guys."
Gay_Bay•
Both options are perfectly acceptable in English Edit to add: it's "your" because the plans belong to "you". Your is simply the posessive
Tetracheilostoma•
i definitely do say your guys's
somuchsong•
I just say "your". I do hear "your guys'" and "your guys's" a lot but I think they both sound awkward, so I never use them.
Blahkbustuh•
I didn't realize this until I took a language in school (Spanish) and learning that verbs conjugate: "you" doesn't quite fit for talking to a group. Like conceptually even to me saying "you" to a group feels slightly off. Basically, English is missing plural-you. Even mono-English speakers that don't know any other language can sense it. That's where "y'all" and "you guys" comes from. I have experience with Spanish, German, and French, which are among our closest language-neighbors and they all have separate singular and plural "you" pronouns. (Actually "you" is plural-you and "thou" is singular-you but it was on its way out by Shakespeares' time.) So we use phrases like "you guys" or "all of you" or "you all" or "y'all" as the plural-you, when we're talking to a group. The possessive forms of those are phrases like: "your guys'" "all of yours'", "your all's", "y'all's", "all y'all's" etc. Where we can, the instinct is to make both words show possession. What goes wrong, that you're picking up on is that the wires are getting crossed linguistically. We're putting an -s on the you and guys for plural, but also adding an s is also how English shows possession (adding -s does 3 functions in English) so a lot of the time in casual speech stuff like "your guys'" ends up being pronounced like "your guys-ez"--it's picking up two ending-s's, one to emphasizes plural-you and the other to show possession.
Umbra_175•
Remove “guys.” You don’t need it.
Dorianscale•
Your guys’ is the correct way to say what you want. (Pronounced guyses) It’s a bit of a dialect thing and what people say here will change depending on where you’re from. Where I’m from “your guys’ “ sounds perfectly natural. Another regional way to say this is “what are y’all’s morning routines” and there are a few more distinct ways to say this.
asplodingturdis•
*Y’all superiority*
EmberOnFire13•
I personally prefer to use the terms y'all- What are y'alls morning routine?
i-am-a-potatoo•
idk what the top comments are going on about but I say "your guys'" all the time. I agree that I wouldn't ever write it in a formal setting, but it's definitely alright for over text or speaking in general (though if you're unsure if it's ok you can always default to just "your")
DustyMan818•
I say "you guys'" but that may be dialectal.
Maleficent_Scale_296•
I’ve heard people say guys’ (sounds like guyziz). For instance a mother addressing multiple children “where’s your guys’ ball?”
JenniferJuniper6•
We should all just switch to y’all. The possessive is obvious and easy.
not_just_an_AI•
To avoid any "you" vs "your" vs "yours" confusion you can say "what are yalls morning routines." The downside is that "yalls" isn't technically correct, the upside is that you don't need to learn the correct one and it sounds perfectly natural.
jistresdidit•
a good movie to watch is called Arrival with Amy Adams. the word, your, can mean things belonging to you, or things belonging to you and your friends. this is very difficult in some sentences and makes us add extra words or chance being misunderstood. in English some things are inferred, meaning the situation defines the definition. what is your morning routine? since you are asking Reddit, a billion possible users, the question infers a group of users likely to respond. it is plural although it sounds singular. groups of people who are men and women, is usually referred to as a group of males. you guys, refers to men, and a group of men and women. other versions are, what is everybody's daily routine? means all the men and women who want to reply who have a routine. this is my favorite. what does everybody think of this reply? doesn't imply I have to have 4 billion answers, it infers those people who are interested in replying, and that group is now called everybody, not your guys.
TinkerMelle•
"It was y'all's idea" if I'm just speaking casually, but that's also a benefit of being Southern. Written, your guys' is correct, but if I was pronouncing it out loud I'd add an extra s (guys's).
Appropriate_Job_7175•
I usually hear it as casual your (like "yur") instead of a forced/directed your (makes it sound more natural, IMO). Also worth mentioning that using y'all's tends to be more common than "your guys's" in physical speech, at least where I live. NOTE: I always hear guys's in everyday conversations (and y'all's, yinz's, youse guys's, you alls/alls's) but never just guys
Efficient_Car_1819•
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