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Big_Agency_6205
\*sorry but I don't know why this post gets removed so many times I'm a Korean who speaks English. Although I speak and pronounce , I clearly feel that my limit is so invincible for me now. When I face media... 1."So in this instance, I think we'll hear a lot more about the fact that the permanent stanchions, they're called bollards, were not necessarily in place. You know, there was a report a few years ago in New Orleans on this very point that they were prone to vehicle attacks " -CNN news- 2."I've laid off like, sugar and stuff. I had a little bit of a relapse. But when you get to be my age, you're not going to go to the gym and burn it off. What's going to happen is your joints are going to wear out before the donut does." -Bxxl Bxxr's comedy standup- 3."Who was that?" "Faraday. The middleman who landed us the gig. He happens to be a top fixer around these ports." "Thought you were the big boss making all the calls." "No, I'm the guy who gets shit done. And he's the one holding all the 'ennies." -Cyxxxxxnk Edgerunners- 4." I made a booking for two for this afternoon. \[To Lisbon\] Don't fret, I wouldn't seduce you over a meal. That'd be very sophomoric." "I didn't think you were trying to seduce me." \*\*"\*\*Come on, how could that thought not have entered your head? Your denial that it did intrigues me." "Bite me." -The mxxxxlist- **How and with what I should study to be equal with normal natives? Which media would be the closest to daily conversations among common people? definately not the simpsons or dramas...** **should I study with conan shows? or Bill Burr's standups at least?** **you know, the croud do laugh when they watch Bill Burr's comedy. So I think they 100% understand whole words and expressions in that script**

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ProteusReturns•
I'm curious why you think the Simpsons, dramas, etc. wouldn't be good material. I've never noticed anything all that artificial about them - I mean, no more artificial in their mode of speaking than, say, a K-drama is to Korean. Here are some recommendations: # Beginner-Friendly Shows * **"Friends"**: Simple, conversational language with clear humor. * **"Bluey"** (for kids and beginners): Short episodes with clear, friendly dialogue. * **"Peppa Pig"**: Very basic vocabulary and slow speech. * **"Extra English"**: A sitcom specifically designed for English learners. # Intermediate Shows * **"Modern Family"**: Contemporary conversations and family-based scenarios. * **"Brooklyn Nine-Nine"**: Clear dialogue with some slang and humor. * **"The Big Bang Theory"**: Exposure to both conversational and technical language. # Advanced Shows * **"The Office" (US)**: Natural, workplace humor and idioms. * **"Sherlock"**: British English with complex dialogue and vocabulary. * **"Stranger Things"**: Mixes modern conversational English with emotional dialogues. * **"Ted Lasso"**: Heartwarming, with lots of British and American cultural nuances. I would think turning to comedians for ELL is very difficult; not only is humor very hard to translate across cultural divides, but Burr's references, pacing, accent, etc., are not meant to be easy to follow but rather to be verbally surprising and engaging to fluent speakers.
QuercusSambucus•
Do you understand those quotes you posted when you read them, or are they still incomprehensible to you? The first one (CNN quote), at least, is very straightforward.
2000caterpillar•
A lot of shows and comedy standup pieces have lots of slang and vocab that can be tough to decipher, depending on the context. I would suggest a language learning app like Duolingo, or if you prefer to learn English from media, maybe try a few movies, ideally with English subtitles to help you out.
marvsup•
FYI, RM from BTS said he learned English from watching Friends.
ebrum2010•
You need to start with what your comprehension level is. If you're consuming media at a more advanced level it's going to do little to improve your ability. When children in English speaking countried are learning English they don't start with CNN and stand-up comedy. I'd go up the age ranges until you find content you mostly understand that can help you improve your vocabulary. Standup has its own issue. A lot of it is cultural and slang, so even if you are at a high level, you might be missing certain context or certain slang to understand it. Watching it while you're still learning is going to be counterproductive.
zebostoneleigh•
Bill Burr is far too complex. I would not suggest him for learning. For standup, try: Nate Bargatze Jim Gaffigan John Mulaney Michael McIntyre For sitcoms, try older slower ones: Newhart Cheers Friends For drama, try: Shrinking Pushing Daisies The West Wing Heroes
nadsatpenfriend•
I would recommend reality TV shows that feature non-actors. This will give you a feeling for how real people speak every day. Also a great insight into the culture of the country you choose.
ToastMate2000•
Standup, news, and sitcoms with very caricatured, over-the-top characters are all going to have a stylized way of speaking that won't be the way most people talk in normal life. Low-key sitcoms would be okay. YouTube channels where people just talk about their life or their subject of interest would be another means of exposure to normal people talking fairly normally.
wackyvorlon•
Check out The Good Place. It’s one of the best sitcoms ever made.
Complete_Warthog_138•
I second watching sitcoms. I don't watch much tv, so I can't give good recommendations besides what's already been said and Parks and Rec. I don't think comedy shows would be the best because it isn't conversational. You'll want to get more comfortable with the casual flow of conversation, and dramas would probably be better for that.
Guilty_Fishing8229•
Watch sitcoms or sitcom adjacent - like the Simpsons is functionally a sitcom in cartoon form. (The earliest seasons from like 1-10 are way more entertaining and have a more advanced humour than the newer ones, but some slang might be outdated).