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Dating down VS passport Bros

Amr-1992
I heard those terms many times in my English learning Journey, my question is: is people using those terms negatively or positively? Is it normal to say that I am a Passport Bros etc? Is there a fight over those terms? 👌 However, I want to improve my English with native speakers only. I can help with Arabic in return. Please DM me.

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corneliusvancornell•
You should probably not refer to yourself as any kind of "bro." "Bro" can be a term of endearment or familiarity when used among intimates ("hey bro," "you can trust him, he's a bro," "they've been such bros to me"). In broader use, however, it is almost universally dismissive, referring to some or other negative stereotype of a shallow, macho young male: tech bro, finance bro, cryptobro, gym bro, surf bro, lax bro, and so on. No one who describes you as a dudebro or jockbro thinks very much of you at all. I say this as a certifiable frat bro hoping to become a consulting bro after graduation. A "passport bro" is particularly negative, referring to men from rich Western countries who move to generally poorer and/or more conservative countries to pursue women.
helikophis•
As far as I understand this term is used almost exclusively by people who self identify as part of this "community". People who don't identify with the terms who are aware of their existence would very likely view them negatively as it's an openly exploitative subculture (if you can even call it culture).
Paerre•
Passports bros are viewed negatively here in latam at least
SkipToTheEnd•
'Dating down' is used by people who believe that one human can be 'higher' than another, in terms of things like social class. For example, if I were born into a rich family and I dated a person from a poor family, I could say that I am 'dating down'. However, as I mentioned, I would only say this if I believe people from rich families are 'better' than people from poor families. Many people, including myself, think that this is a horrible attitude and so I would not use this phrase. I have only ever heard 'passport bro' used mockingly for heterosexual men who travel abroad to meet women. The suggestion is that these men may have quite sexist attitudes towards women, seeing them as objects. This suggestion is not in the defintion, but it's associated with the culture. The culture of 'passport bros' is one of rejecting progressive values in Western countries and travelling to countries with more conservative values where women are seen as subservient to (below) men. From my perspective, I would not have a good opinion of someone who described themself as a 'travel bro' without any irony.
Guilty_Fishing8229•
Passport bros is pretty negative.
jasonpettus•
In general, if you hear an English speaker refer to someone who's not their good friend as a "bro," they always mean it as an insult, no matter what kind of bro -- finance bro, crypto bro, gym bro, car bro, etc. I'm not familiar with this term you mentioned, but I would assume that "passport bro" is the kind of guy who goes to another country and takes advantage of women there who are hoping to date someone like him in order to get a visa for that bro's home country, because he knows that they're desperate and therefore can be easily manipulated. This kind of person is also often known as a "sex tourist." "Dating down" is also a negative term, but from the opposite direction -- now it's the bro using the term, and they mean something ugly and offensive about the person they're talking about. A man might say this when he wants to claim that he dates women who are "below him" on the social strata, or "not worthy" of his affection, usually because that means he can easily take advantage of them, because they're grateful for his attention. When you put the two terms together, it's pretty clear what this conversation is about, and it's 100% negative and insulting.
Money_Canary_1086•
Dating ‘up’ or ‘down’ is a perception matter and is usually* misapplied. If two people are in a consensual relationship they are compatible with each other and it doesn’t matter if one is conventionally more attractive, smarter, wealthier, higher educated, has lighter or darker skin tone, etc. *I say usually because I’m not interested in debating whether it’s real to someone and I’ve upset them. I could say that some people will talk down about their partner (even directly to them) and their partner allows it. It’s my opinion that this could be an example of dating ‘up’ or ‘down’ and being conscious of it. However, it’s unhealthy to be with someone in a life partner situation where they don’t respect or value you, as-you-are.
LeatherBandicoot•
If you want to see firsthand what a passportbro is, type the word in Reddit 's search bar and then go to 'communities'... You will probably never ever use that word again lol
SwimmingAir8274•
A passport bro for people who don't know. Is someone who moves to a different country with the expectation that they will find a wife with the same views as them. They are usually a bunch of dumbfucks who stereotype women of certain countries to hell You will hear a lot of " *insert country*'s women are really submissive and easy to control", from them They are usually looking for a pretty, conservative (aka doesn't question them and their stupidity) wealthy women If you go looking, you will see that they usually want the women to be the homemaker, the breadwinner and the dick wetter with absolutely no complaints. So they basically don't have to do anything but get pampered like the kings they think they are It most definitely is a negative term. You shouldn't call yourself one unless you are fine with being seen as a sexist, asshole
Tykios5•
The terms 'dating down' and 'passport bros' are not used in normal conversations for mature, healthy people. Other groups of people could use either.
TCsnowdream•
This has been answered. Clink. 🔒
old-town-guy•
I had never heard the term "passport bro(s)" until just now. From what I can gather, there's absolutely nothing positive about being called one.
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kw3lyk•
I think it has a negative connotation, because the first thing I picture is a guy who dates foreign women from poorer countries because they think those women will be more "traditional".