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Native speakers, how do you feel about this?

Native speakers, how do you feel about this?

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43 comments

trekkiegamer359•
Anyone who claims to be an "alpha" or wants to help you be an "alpha" is best ignored. They are all toxic, sexist, often racist, cowards who obsess over trying to be dictators in their own, sad, little, pathetic lives. They normally have no friends, or no friends other than a few other "alphas." Most people do their best to avoid them. They're pitied, hated, little cretins. So, avoid any "alpha bros." As for these specific examples, none of them are terrible. The "don't say" phrases tend to be more informal to semi-formal, while the "say" phrases tend to be more semi-formal to formal, but that isn't true for every phrase. Generally, all the phrases are ok, so use what you want.
DrMindbendersMonocle•
The whole "Alpha" concept was created by wieners who want to pretend like they are the pinnacle of manhood. It's all nonsense
Saiba1212•
Alpha, Beta, Gamma mindset are for children. Idk why grown man should have anything to do about it
odd_coin•
It sounds cringe bruh
RoadHazard•
I've always thought of "alpha" as people who think they are better than everyone else, who will do whatever is needed to get where they want, and who have no qualms about running people over on the way (i.e. assholes), not whatever this is trying to say.
Gold_Criticism_8072•
Sounds overly pretentious to me.
gracoy•
No, if anything at all says “Alpha” it is nonsense. Most of these won’t work in every situation. That’s not to say every single one is bad, but definitely don’t listen to whatever account you saw this on. The whole “Alpha” thing is intended to make people, usually young men, extremely reliant on the people giving this “advice” to them, and they are almost always trying to profit off of someone’s insecurities.
New-Ebb61•
What in the world does "speaking like an alpha" mean??
Tetracheilostoma•
"see you" is nicer than "goodbye" since it implies a future meeting. The rest are just pointless and silly
MethMouthMichelle•
I think all these are fine except “it’s pleasant”. Pleasant really isn’t a word you use everyday, and it implies other properties (such as calm, smooth, or warm) that may explain *why* you like something, but not everything you like should be described as being pleasant.
BookJacketSmash•
This is for the kind of person that doesn’t really think of other people’s perspective. Or maybe it would be more accurate to say that it’s for the kind of person who doesn’t realize that other people won’t always respond to you the same way. I think that specifically “Let me find out” is more useful than “I don’t know,” in a professional environment. Otherwise, for any of the rest, I cannot see one being better than the other. Context is always king.
somuchsong•
There is absolutely no reason any of these phrases will make you sound like an "alpha". All of these "do this if you want to be an alpha" things are extremely dumb. No one talks about alphas except weird guys who are obsessed with being alphas.
RoadsideCampion•
Reminds me of 'gentlemanly' language, but with ab annoying wrapper
IrishFlukey•
Take a mix of them all. They are just English phrases. Don't mind nonsense like "speaking like an alpha". People don't care. They just want to communicate with you. So it doesn't make a difference if you sound fancy. Using too many of them will make you sound weird or pretentious. People usually come here asking how to sound native or natural. Exclusively using them will not help you do that. So as I said, use a mix of them.
JonPartleeSayne•
Phrases like "it's pleasant" and "my pleasure" are more examples of lost self-control! Those words came into the English language from other languages. English wasn't confident enough in its own words and relied on others. .
BroodingShark•
In a professional context, "let me find out" (and then you really find out) is more proactive, while "I don't know" just shows ignorance. This one is good advice 
sqeeezy•
I like the effort made in the direction to talk outside the box, but just talking inside another box misses the point.
idril1•
who wants to be a right wing meme based on nonsense? I feel, as a native speaker that anyone who describes themselves as an "alpha" needs to get in the sea
jmajeremy•
Some of these "alternatives" don't really have the same meaning, and some of them are pretty much interchangeable and have no connotations one way or another. The only one that sort of makes sense is saying "Let me find out" instead of "I don't know"; I'm not sure that has anything to do with being "alpha", but it's something they teach salespeople to do.
Friend_of_Hades•
I would avoid taking any advice that mentions being an "alpha" as a general rule of thumb
DEFINITELY_NOT_DAISY•
If I met someone who consistently used this "alpha male" language I would think they're intellectually disabled
GoPro478•
Thats just being polite and well mannered, not alpha.
JaeHxC•
If you say "My pleasure," a lot of people will laugh and ask if you used to work at Chick-fil-A. Source: I say "my pleasure" pretty often, and I've been to a Chick-fil-A once. I do not say this to be.. an alpha. I personally feel like it's more passive than "You're welcome."
_prepod•
“Let me find out” instead of “I don’t know” sounds like advice from an armchair Instagram psychologist
wackyvorlon•
These people are so weird…
PissGuy83•
“ It’s pleasant “ is cold and dismissive. Whereas, “ see you “ is casual and friendly. This list seems bogus.
culdusaq•
This is social advice, not language advice. And yes, it's stupid.
that1LPdood•
It is 100% incorrect. Lol None of that will make you sound like an “alpha.” None of that will make you sound like *not* an alpha, either. Also: maybe stop believing in alpha/beta shit. It’s not useful or indicative of any truth about human personalities or social standing.
JenniferJuniper6•
I don’t care. It doesn’t matter to me.
SnooHesitations4798•
**laughing in Omega
miss-robot•
How to sound like a complete wanker:
Norman_debris•
Lol
-Wolfgang_Bismark•
With this logic, it's basically this: Don't say "How to speak like an 'Alpha'" Say "The correct procedure on how to resemble a Superior's speaking"
09EpicGameFlame•
The “alpha” concept was at first a trend for men trying to sort of embrace masculinity, and in a bit more of a traditional sense. As this trend leaked into the public, and not just the people who cared for it, alpha, sigma, and beta males became something people talked about ironically and it became cringe and a joke
shortercrust•
The whole alpha thing is such BS but saying “it’s pleasant” comes across as prissy to me and about as far from the imagined alpha imagine as it gets.
Tionetix•
Omfg
Immediate_Loquat_246•
I want you to ignore this list. The first one is so weird.
I-hate-taxes•
I wouldn’t say it’s bad advice at all, but labelling it as “speaking like an alpha” is very off-putting. Quick edit: Is it just me or do most of these quotes evoke a sense of superiority? Kinda like one-liners in a way. They are for “alphas” after all, switch the word out for “sigmas” and it’s practically the same thing.
HeavySomewhere4412•
There's nothing about these that implies an "alpha" (aka dominant) viewpoint. This is the way I see them. 1. "I like it" - totally normal. "It's pleasant" is weird and I've never heard it would never say it. I guess the idea is that it's more dismissive and therefore showing you don't care as much so it gives you power. Weird and not common. 2. "Goodbye" has a possible implication of finality. As in, this might be the last time you see this person. "See you \[later\]" or "Talk to you soon" or other variations avoid this. This is legitimate and the same thing is used in Spanish. (and other languages I'm sure) but has nothing to do with being an "alpha". 3. If I'm asking or giving permission for another person to go ahead of me, I'd always say "after you" and not "you first". Might be a normal variation. 4. "You're welcome" is appropriate in every situation when someone says "thank you". "My pleasure" implies that I really enjoyed what I did to deserve the "thank you" and has a more limited use. I wouldn't use it routinely. 5. "Tell me" is a command. "I'm listening" is a statement that you're willing and available to be told about it. The difference is subtle but I can see in some situations the latter comes off better. 6. This is classic corporate speak. "I don't know" means just that. "Let me find out" says you don't know but you actively intend to try to know. In many cases, the latter is better in a professional setting. 7. Both these phrases are similar enough that I don't see a big difference
GabuEx•
The alternatives presented seem like reasonable synonyms for the initial statements, but I have no idea what it means to describe them as "speaking like an alpha". I guess the intention is for them to sound more confident? They don't really sound very different to me, honestly.
Dr_NapsandSnacks•
This shit is unhelpful in any language
ChiaraStellata•
Absolute bullshit beginning to end. There's no such thing as an "alpha" and none of these sound more macho or impressive than any of the others. Some contexts call for more or less formality, some call for a more verbose response or a more terse and abrupt response. Responding to context appropriately is the best way to speak effectively. You could make the argument that e.g. "let me find out" is a more constructive (and less dismissive) response than "I don't know" but it also implies a commitment that you may or may not have time and resources to commit to, so I'm really not sure that always makes sense either. In short, selecting among these responses should be done based on many factors. Language is complicated.
IkeAtLarge•
This is kind of weird. Anything here works fine, but ”to speak like an alpha” is a stupid goal.