To be fair, a sizeable chunk of modern US culture (particularly music and sport) does come from African Americans, and the language of our TV, movies, and music reflects that.
CamelliaSinensiz•
I speak AAVE. This is how American English works. The broader society takes a chunk of words/phrases every few months, wears them out until everyone is sick of it, and then moves on to the next chunk. So yeah, a lot of American slang comes from us. That’s just how it goes
aafrophone•
Well, one thing I know is that the title of the post is definitely *not* in AA(V)E
amazzan•
this meme seems to imply that AAVE is too frequently acknowledged, when the opposite is usually true. it is a common phenomenon (in the US and around the world) that black Americans create language, only to have it co-opted by other groups without credit.
ebrum2010•
I would also like to add to some of the other comments that AAVE is also a dialect spoken all over the US, so it contributes more to the language than say, a dialect primarily spoken in one state or in a region of the US.
DustyMan818•
Because that's what happens on the internet. It *is* AAVE, misused and memeified until everyone is sick of it.
Pengwin0•
That’s how it goes. Slang is usually created in the AAVE community and then people start using it more broadly online.
VeronaMoreau•
I got downvoted to hell in this sub because I said I'm not going out of my way to explain AAVE or ball slang to outsiders. My biggest reason is so people like this can continue to look this foolish and ignorant. If you really need to know either, you'll be in a position to pick them up, but I'm not making room for those who already don't respect it or us.
MalignantShrub•
Nah this title is definitely racist lmao
KiwasiGames•
It’s particularly amusing when it’s actually English from subcultures in other parts of the world.
SnooDonuts6494•
I think you are less likely to get comments in response to AAVE questions, simply because lots of people here don't understand it or know enough about it. For example, I don't usually comment about AAVE because I'm English - and although I understand most AAVE, I don't feel qualified to respond to complex questions about it. Something that may sound "wrong" to me may actually be fine in that vernacular.
QizilbashWoman•
Usually
TCsnowdream•
I’m keeping a close eye on this thread.
Play nice.
WeirdGrapefruit774•
Are you sure you are a native speaker? 😉
LackWooden392•
Booooo. Your post sucks.
Enthusias_matic•
mfers will ask if slang from other parts of the world are common use in the united states and be shocked when a body's most familiar call back to that phrasing is the most well documented variant of English spoken in America.
tomveiltomveil•
S'not that it be AAVE, it's that it done been AAVE
Gravbar•
Because the vast majority of the time someone posts shit, that's where it came from. Sometimes they're wrong, but that's way less frequently. Most of the time it's wrong it's because it came from shared southern american English
Lucky_otter_she_her•
literally got downvoted for pointing out that MANY people put -'s even after the letter S if the S is a part of the noun stem ('the princess's crown' is difrent from 'the princess crown') yesterday. Not particularly AAE related, but still prescriptivism ugh
gnosticgnostalgic•
poorly imitating black people isn't really that funny, unless ur a minstrel from the 1800s i suppose
SnarkyBeanBroth•
It is the most common slang/dialect to be posted in questions. I think a lot of people learning English in classes or from tutors in other countries are being taught textbook standard English. Which is fine! It will get them quite far. But then they go to immerse themselves in English-language media, and they are absolutely not prepared for how pervasive AAVE is in American culture.
Even if you don't grow up speaking it because you grew up in white bread suburbia US, you usually understand it reasonably well because it's so common in music, TV, film, etc.
Looneydoomed_•
What is AAVE? 😭
gracilenta•
if a sentence done got posted on this here sub, but ain’t no one here to read it, is it AAVE ?
fixed it slightly for ya.
Diagot•
I hope one day I could understand AAVE, so I can watch "Don't be a menace" in original language
Affectionate-Mode435•
I get your intention to state that folks in this sub conflate US slang of many different types with AAVE and in your view people are too quick to rush to just putting everything down to AAVE.
Had you expressed that opinion in simple English of no particular dialect then a conversation may have emerged.
I am whiter than snow and not American. And until I read through your comments, my initial reaction to your post was wtf who does that! I thought the post was basically saying **shut up with all this AAVE this, AAVE that, not everything slang is fecken AAVE**. To make matters worse it seemed you were saying it through parody and mock AAVE. I really interpreted your post initially as saying you're fed up with people constantly linking US slang to AAVE and it's bullshit (which to be honest is actually partly what you're getting at) but I concluded that the reasons you felt that way were because you didn't like the idea of some now widespread common slang having originated from black folks, because of the 'creative' 😐 way you framed your view.
Without any context whatsoever and living in a world full of right-wing mofos incessantly shouting **everything ethical and just is woke bullshit** and bigots, incels, and presidents taking hatred to whole new levels, you really really have to agree (or at least appreciate) how your post just landing in the world on its own has all the hallmarks of the now all too familiar genre of internet hate, so it looks like something you didn't intend it to be.
I love how much I have learned from this sub about slang, some that even I use, having come from AAVE. I have no way of knowing that stuff unless someone from that language group tells me. The fact that so much colloquial English has been purloined from AAVE means that you are going to regularly learn that something you never knew was also AAVE turns out to be. I actually love the sound, structure and vocabulary of AAVE and if I could come back as anyone on Earth I would want to be Jessica Williams or any character she ever plays, lol. But I also know that AAVE is not an English for me to speak. I understand why I don't, can't and shouldn't.
For these and other reasons, people have been incensed by your post. You don't have to agree with them, but it doesn't help anyone to argue with them, least of all you.
🕊️
ibeerianhamhock•
What's your point?
8Bit2552•
What IS AAVE?
SteampunkExplorer•
I think you might be confusing slang and dialect? AAVE is a dialect, and a lot of the sentences I see attributed to it just sound southern to me. But it's not slang, it's just how people talk around here. 😅
Also, sometimes dialect words get picked up as slang words in the broader language ("y'all" and "folks" make me squirm when used this way, LOL), so there may be some terms that are AAVE, **and** "American slang", but still mainly AAVE.
PK_Pixel•
To be fair, this isn't entirely inaccurate. A lot of slang does come from AAVE.
A very similar phenomenon happens in Japan. The kansai dialect is the most recognized dialect (sociolect actually) that practically everyone understands. I even heard from someone who lives in Hokkaido (very far from Kansai) that younger kids use kansai-dialect more than the words from Hokkaido's dialect, which is limited more to older people. A lot of slang derives from the Kansai dialect.
Also, you should know that you can't just "slangify" your standard English and automatically be speaking AAVE. You'll just sound stupid to all groups of people..
TofuOfuR•
“done gotten posted” the correct form for that would be “has been posted”
its_dirtbag_city•
I'm not sure what you're trying to say, but reading the title of this post, I know you don't know enough about AAVE to be saying it.
If you read the title of this post and can't tell that it's mangled and glaringly incorrect, this applies to you as well.